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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 22:45:59

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lets see what the members think?


Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 00:55:38

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which dvd r u talking about ?? is there just a dorset one i have got the uk 07 one with Eccy and kirkbride on


Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 09:12:22

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Tom, there is a Tractor Pulling Dorset video which Mike produced last year of the Pulling at the GDSF (http://www.mikebarrettproductions.co.uk/tractor/tractorpullingfromdorset) which unfortunately has an introduction to camera and interviews done by me which probably spoils a perfectly good DVD...
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 15:06:02

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it was the pulling that was crap i go there for the week wit my parent every year and like watch all the tracktor pulling but this year i was bored cos every tracktor got to end unless broke. I got all baret film but i find this one boring and i got fed up before finish


Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 23:34:14

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I found the DVD to be of good quality (picture and sound), the interviews were very interesting with lots information. What I did find is the pulling action became very tedious, it was the same thing over and over and could have been condensed to an hour. To sum up this DVD, I would say they did there best with what they had to video, but I have to be honest if the Council starts recycling DVD's this one will be in a box outside the house. On a side note after going to a lot of low power tractor pulls (500hp) over europe, I found the safety of this event to be very low compared with what I have seen, some tractors looked to be held together with ratchet straps, there were no flag men, very little engine shielding to protect anyone from projectiles I could go on, I just hope HSE gets a copy of this DVD as a case file for future reference.


Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 09:19:55

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bank grass worm, if you look at the DVD's from earlier years you'll see that the Pullers are much safer than they used to be and they'll continue to improve. No flag men because this isn't competition pulling although at least one other 'Independent' Sledge dose have a flag man. 'Tedious'; well that's something you can't do much about because it is only 'Demonstration Pulling' and the Sledge crew will always give the Tractor the best possible chance to get to the end of the track. The whole idea is to keep the 'action' moving for the sake of the spectators and keep the interval between pulls as short as possible... Please don't forget the Pullers have to pay all their own expenses to get the machines to the show and keep them running. Some of the Tractors come from as far afield as Scotland just to keep the crown entertained.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 19:32:04

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it seems a shame for it to be just squirrel to be answersing these petty comments,although i have vowed not to get involved,it you dont like the dvd then dont buy it or if u have the dvd then hide it or put it some where,where you dont have to spoil the forum with these comments,and for squirrel,he keeps the crowd going and gives the crowd some usefull infomation about the tractor,owner and the occasional past mishap. mike barret didnt need to go to dorset,he and his crew spent time for other people who were not there to enjoy the pulling,making enjoyable dvds for us all to watch.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 22:20:12

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Every body has there own opinion thats what you get with an open forum. Mike Barret went to dorset because he wanted to, maybe some just feel its not his fault,but for what is there for him to film?


Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 23:07:25

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its easy for people to complain about our independents .but have they made or built a tractor i ges the answer is no,if there not happy dont buy the dvd ,and stop moaning.
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 00:51:34

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matt jopling wrote:
its easy for people to complain about our independents .but have they made or built a tractor i ges the answer is no,if there not happy dont buy the dvd ,and stop moaning.Until we kill someone...
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 19:26:54

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bOX brakes obviovsly work well with it bobbing up and down


Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 22:57:47

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I would suggest that if you don't want positive or negative comments about a DVD and it's content on here, then don't advertise it on the front page of this website. If any of you didn't want the world to see the lack of safety equipment on your tractors compared with other low powered pulls across europe, why get involved and agree to the interviews. Flag men are a visual aid to the operator of a tractor and sled. They inform the tractor driver when to start pulling and when to stop, they have nothing to do with competition but they are everything to do safety. The only real difference between competition and demonstration pulling is that competition has a rerecorded measured distance and demonstration does not. Squirrel, I hope your not saying the tractors on this DVD don't have known safety equipment because they cant afford them, a very poor excuse if a accident were to happen and I don't think it would go down well in anyone's defence in the court room!


Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:24:02

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what a load of old crap again.....blah blah blah...... thank heavens for the grown ups
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 18:46:00

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i might be young but i dont fink safety is childish


Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 09:53:30

bank grass worm
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Oh well seems the saying, "that you can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink" is appropriate here!!

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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 00:59:30

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il put my 2 pennys worth in now. the dvd i have not see but am assuming its intresting to many people, but not all. indipendent pulling is for people who do not have the time or MONEY to do competition pulling and that it is a cheap entry into the sport. safety is the first and formost for drivers, sled crew, and the crowd. as squirrel stated nearly all tractors have more safety implements/attachments fitted compaired to the early days of pulling, yes indipendents will differ to competition safety due to the fack of that most of the indipendents are mainly under 400hp. the majority of sled owners/crews have probably made safety improvements, up until now pulling accidents have been low. and will continue to be low. i was always told, machines kill. and damn true that it. but for all those inc BANK GRASS WORM. if h&s were not happy with how indipendent pulling was being run and how safety was being implimented, dont you think they would of stopped pulling. NO THEY HAVENT. and all indipendent orgs have there own safety rules: aka Roll Bar Kill switch/flaps shatter blankets/gaurds working brakes neutral sensors added protection around the engine etc etc and most people who bicker on here probably dont have a running tractor to see how tought life is like with safety and fees/costs please do not ruin this page as its about the dvd not a slaggin match of H&S squirrel your doing a fine job dont let the odd few pull you down# Sawkins2005


nothing new
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 09:58:18

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heard it all before time and time again show after show, however the worst accidents with the worst outcomes dont happen at the independent shows.... but very little is said or slagging off done when it happens at competition .... even though they were incredibly stupid and inevitable. As said before if you dont like the pulling dont turn up and watch.
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Re: nothing new
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:43:58

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AirPol wrote:
however the worst accidents with the worst outcomes dont happen at the independent shows.....Should read "HAVE NOT happened at the independent shows", DON'T is like saying never, and we all know you can "NEVER SAY NEVER!" Also I am sure Sascha can fill us in on the case of the flywheel explosion in Germany..............................................................................


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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:29:40

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know wat? couldnt care less wat happens in Germany, dont go there nor going to, not affilliated with any pulling out of the country. I dont competition pull at all here either and am involved with shows that are serious about improving safety, where the HSE are involved with the organisation of rules etc, we'll go with them rather than a lot of gnarly old grumblers full of maybes and wat ifs, there are qualified people out there worth listening to instead. I stand by the facts, the accidents in Blighty at shows that I attend are a rarity, haven't seen a serious one or fatal one, those are the facts wat ever words you use like it or not.
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 22:05:29

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VERY SHORT MEMORIES


THE FACTS
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 22:55:35

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AirPol wrote:
I stand by the facts, the accidents in Blighty at shows that I attend are a rarity, haven't seen a serious one or fatal one, those are the facts wat ever words you use like it or not.Ive been going to GDSF for a number of years now as a fan and I can remember one near fatal accident. One year the sled went up the wheels of the tractor and ended up on top of the driver, I for one will never forget how loud he was screaming as they dragged him out. If thats not serious then I dont know what is. In my opinion he was fortunate to be still alive!


Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 23:29:32

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safety is the first and formost for drivers, sled crew, and the crowd. Since when?


Re: THE FACTS
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:26:52

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Ive been going to GDSF for a number of years now as a fan and I can remember one near fatal accident. One year the sled went up the wheels of the tractor and ended up on top of the driver, I for one will never forget how loud he was screaming as they dragged him out. If thats not serious then I dont know what is. In my opinion he was fortunate to be still alive![/quote] Well there we have it you must be right. But it wasn't fatal or nearly was it? Have a look on youtube and see some really scary accidents. Get things into perspective.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 17:47:04

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Perhaps you are forgetting about the flywheel that exploded in this country in the mid 90's?! Seeing someone getting seriously burnt and numerous spectators getting hit with flying debris was something i will never ever forget, how someone did not die that day remains a mystery to me, thankfully they did not. How many tractors that pull at the GDSF have all steel clutches that are annually inspected with adequate gaurding, or how many have cast crap with little to no gaurding just waiting like a bomb to explode?! You are very naive to think it will not happen to you, either that or just plain stupid...


Re: THE FACTS
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 21:57:57

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AirPol wrote:
Well there we have it you must be right. But it wasn't fatal or nearly was it? Have a look on youtube and see some really scary accidents. Get things into perspective.I cannot understand some people sometimes, he was nearly crushed by the pan. He had been pushed into the wing and the steering wheel, how close do you need it to be? The morning after I went into the pulling compound and spoke to some of the pullers, and asked how the person was. They were all very concerned about what had happened and that he was very lucky. Were you concerned I wonder? Perhaps you would like to see blood and guts spilled on the track before it becomes serious? As I have said before I have attended the GDSF for many a year now, and after reading the reactions and childish comments of people involved I wonder if there is a bigger story to be found out on safety at the GDSF. I certainly don’t need to be putting myself or family at risk!


Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 23:25:38

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Airpol, perhaps you can give me your verdict on this little gem I found while searching the net. Do you think that man was lucky????? Please dont take too long as my time on here may be short


Re: THE FACTS
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:38:46

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cannot understand some people sometimes, he was nearly crushed by the pan. He had been pushed into the wing and the steering wheel, how close do you need it to be? The morning after I went into the pulling compound and spoke to some of the pullers, and asked how the person was. They were all very concerned about what had happened and that he was very lucky. Were you concerned I wonder? Perhaps you would like to see blood and guts spilled on the track before it becomes serious?We know this puller very well and have had a discussion about the time in question and we all have a different version than you. You also dont know me, perhaps you would like to see some 'blood a guts' so that you can say I told you so. You harp on about the past without bothering to find out how the involvement of HSE has changed and how individual shows are moving safety forward each year, back biting and sniping seems to interest you a lot more. As for the photo that was at no show I attend.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 13:09:19

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Its about time some offical body in this country took it all by the bootstraps and laid it all out so that everybody pulled to the same set of rules. even if it was the european rules. and dont say why europe, cause the south west basically run to the etpc book. all i know is since the lack of people writing in on the btpa site all the crap and bullshit is on here. but we all have our own opions on every subject. i'm sure pulling and the murky stuff must go hand in hand!!


Qualified people
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 23:56:03

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AirPol wrote:
I dont competition pull at all here either and am involved with shows that are serious about improving safety, where the HSE are involved with the organisation of rules etc, we'll go with them rather than a lot of gnarly old grumblers full of maybes and wat ifs, there are qualified people out there worth listening to instead. Its good to see that you are willing to listen to qualified people. I happen to be a qualified agricultural engineer and have been for ten years and have allso been involved in tractor pulling for about the same amont of time. At the dealership I work for we are involved with BAGMA (The trade association representing agricultural dealers in the UK) BAGMA and the HSE have for a number of years had a action plan on tractor safety testing, very much like a MOT on a car of which I have been trained. After a lot of training I am now qualified to do this, which has made me very supprised that a tractor was allowed to run let alone pull with a sun shade. This shade would not pass any tests for use in the uk, not even for ploughing a flat field. For This FACT alone I find it very hard to believe that anyone is liaising with HSE as you are not following the fundamentals of farming not to mention motorsport.
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NO THEY HAVENT. and all indipendent orgs have there own safety rules: aka Roll Bar Kill switch/flaps shatter blankets/gaurds working brakes neutral sensors added protection around the engine etc etc Thank you for this information. I really would like to know who inspected the tractors in this dvd. As going by the rules tractors should have side pannels, but in actual fact a very low number of them do. Take this one for example, twin turbos all outside the covers and where is it shielded then. Thin air must be quite strong!! . Please can you leave some more constructive comments on this Airpol


Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 00:14:07

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surely its intaresting for people to even be able to see what is under the bonnet. i think that they are kept a good safe distance away behind wire mesh fence which you can hardly see through.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 00:30:37

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surely its intaresting for people to even be able to see what is under the bonnet. i think that they are kept a good safe distance away behind wire mesh fence which you can hardly see through.Adam you may want to look as this near miss... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5EuNtNxQ8g and that was just a manifold if the internals of a turbo let go, you're talking a hand grenade...
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 08:35:08

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yes but look theres no wire fencing like we have and lets face it a curtain sider lorry stopped the. put a sign up telling the public theres a high chance of shrapnel dont ruin the pulling. This must be the worst i have ever seen if you look closely the tractor drives over its own engine, theres no wire mesh up but no one gets hurt and i cant see a ford cargo doing that.


Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 13:03:51

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Trust me anything can let go... If he's doing a grand you'll be lucky... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTd5ZCnK2EQ
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 17:54:01

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Is that the independant pullers answer to everything?! just put up a sign. . . Why not just go to the bother of putting some sheilding round turbos and engine to protect spectators and drivers, that way you could have lower fences where you can actually see something?!!! A lot of independant pullers on here say they dont pull competition because they cant afford it, sheilding around turbo and engine is not expensive!!


Re: THE FACTS
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 21:45:48

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AirPol wrote:
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cannot understand some people sometimes, he was nearly crushed by the pan. He had been pushed into the wing and the steering wheel, how close do you need it to be? The morning after I went into the pulling compound and spoke to some of the pullers, and asked how the person was. They were all very concerned about what had happened and that he was very lucky. Were you concerned I wonder? Perhaps you would like to see blood and guts spilled on the track before it becomes serious?We know this puller very well and have had a discussion about the time in question and we all have a different version than you. You also dont know me, perhaps you would like to see some 'blood a guts' so that you can say I told you so. You harp on about the past without bothering to find out how the involvement of HSE has changed and how individual shows are moving safety forward each year, back biting and sniping seems to interest you a lot more. As for the photo that was at no show I attend.so what is your version of that night? I was only pointing out that there have been serious accidents at GDSF.